By Matthew Rozsa
I find that every so often an event occurs in politics that reminds me of some darkly comic incident from my childhood. Such was the case when I found a clip of Chris Matthews exposing the astonishing ignorance of a conservative talk show host named Kevin James on MSNBC’s “Hardball”. Here is an excerpt from that clip, in which James – who had been vigorously claiming that Barack Obama favors a policy of “appeasement” and was comparing him to history’s most famous appeaser, Neville Chamberlain – was suddenly asked by Matthews to explain what precisely Chamberlain did wrong.
Chris: I want to do a little history check on you—what did Neville Chamberlain do wrong in 1939? What did he do wrong?
Kevin: It all goes back to appeasement. It’s the key term.
Chris: No, what did he do, tell me what he did?
Kevin: It’s the key term.
Chris: You have to answer this question. What did he do?
Kevin: It’s the same thing, it puts it all…
Chris: Well, tell me what he did?
Kevin: It’s appeasement.
Chris: What did Chamberlain do wrong?
Kevin: His actions, his actions enabled, energized, legitimized…
Chris: What did Chamberlain do?
Kevin: It’s the exact same thing.
Chris: No stop, Kevin. I’m not going to continue with this interview unless you answer what that thing is. What did Chamberlain do in ‘39, tell me? ‘38?
Kevin: Chris, it’s the exact same thing alright?
Chris: What did he do? <Yelling> What did he do?… You don’t know, do you? You don’t know what Neville Chamberlain did!
Kevin: Yeah, he was an appeaser, Chris….
Chris: You don’t know what you’re talking about, Kevin. You don’t know what you’re talking about. Tell me what Chamberlain did wrong.
Kevin: Neville Chamberlain was an appeaser, Chris. Neville Chamberlain was an appeaser, all right? […]
Chris: I’ve been sitting here five minutes asking you to say what the president was referring to in 1938 at Munich.
Kevin: I don’t know.
Chris: You don’t know, thank you.
Watching this reminded me of a time when I was in tenth grade history and a bird flew into the classroom window. At first our class was stunned by the unexpected sound, but soon we couldn’t help finding ourselves staring with a mixture of horror and awe as the poor creature rose from the ground, floated in the air for a few seconds, and proceeded to smash against the window again. Before we could absorb what we had just seen, the creature picked itself up, stared at the dust-coated reflective surface with what can only be described as avian determination, and slammed its carcass against the glass for a third consecutive time. The bird then made at least a dozen more efforts, each with more vigor than the one preceding it, while the rest of us argued as to what we could do to stop the poor animal from torturing itself. Fortunately, the nineteenth time seemed to be the charm, prompting the bird to fly away in recognition of the fact that the barrier through which it wished to traverse was simply too strong. Seeing Kevin James debate Chris Matthews was like witnessing a re-enactment of this event, with James playing the bird and Matthews playing the window.
Mean-spirited analogies aside, there are actually some very sober implications to the Kevin James scandal (and if that man has any sense of shame, he should feel nothing short of scandalized by his performance). Throughout history, Jews have been the victims of persecution born not only from active hatred, but from selfish indifference. When Neville Chamberlain whet Hitler’s imperial avarice by giving him Czechoslovakian territory in 1938, he knowingly condemned the thousands of Jews living in that region to lives of oppression and degradation (which eventually culminated in death). Although Chamberlain’s defenders may point to the fact that the British Prime Minister’s motives were undoubtedly driven from a desire to maintain peaceable relations between his own country and the Third Reich, what they would ignore is that it was Chamberlain’s very willingness to sell out the Jews in the name of the interests of his own country that made his deed particularly monstrous. Regardless of whether Chamberlain was personally an anti-Semite, his indifference to the anti-Semitic actions and aspirations of Hitler were directly responsible for a genocide that eventually led to the deaths of six million Jews. From this we learned a lesson – that the policy of appeasement (“to buy off an aggressor by concessions usually at the sacrifice of principles”) (1) is as immoral as it is ultimately unsuccessful.
This lesson is one that we must never forget. At the same time, it is equally important that we not allow demagogues to cheapen this lesson, by manipulating and warping it to serve their own ends. Men like Kevin James and George W. Bush, who use one of history’s greatest tragedies like a club with which to bludgeon their ideological opponents, are just as dangerous as any number of would-be appeasers.
The transcript was taken from two websites:
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/15/kevin-james-appeaser/
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/05/15/matthews-rips-right-wing-talkie-kevin-james-because-he-doesnt-know-neville-chamberlain/.
A full video clip of the more hilarious parts of this incident can be found at http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/15/kevin-james-appeaser/.